MCI sound driver

[SSAP]

My PC is not allowing me to save any sort of audio to CD:
(Windows ME)

The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded. Install
via Windows Contol Panel.

Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it messed up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).

Upon digging around this is all I found that referenced *MCI*:
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.

I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.

What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?

Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer this way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Heather]

Hang in there, SSAP.....the MVP's are fast asleep. Did you check in Device
Manager to see if what is under Sound?? Any yellow marks? Did you look in
Windows Control Panel??

I lost my CD Drive on WinME due to a lightning hit in the neighbourhood, so
I had a new one installed to make sure I got everything copied for this XP
computer.....however, I just bought a wireless router and there may be a few
ways to get at the music via that or cable.

I can now *see* the C Drive on the old WinME machine....haven't tried
anything major yet, but you could also transfer by cable, to the best of my
knowledge.

Noel should be on here about 1 am EST.

Cheers.....Heather

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it messed up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer this way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[SSAP]

No yellow warning marks anywhere - but I will go back and double check. At
the same time I'll copy system specs into an email and send it to myself on
this new PC so I have that ready to put here if needed.

I'll admit my biggest problem is not being able to recognize the driver or
lack of - as I'm looking forthe words "MCI sound driver" . I've read through
all the post about ""removing" driver files". Seems to me I tried that but
maybe the wrong ones!?!

I do have sound - can play the music files as well as listen to any audio on
web sites.

They told me I can't use a router (when purchasing the new PC) because I am
on dial up service.

Thanks Heather

This could be good exercise as the computers are in different rooms!

Post by Heather
Hang in there, SSAP.....the MVP's are fast asleep. Did you check in Device
Manager to see if what is under Sound?? Any yellow marks? Did you look in
Windows Control Panel??
I lost my CD Drive on WinME due to a lightning hit in the neighbourhood, so
I had a new one installed to make sure I got everything copied for this XP
computer.....however, I just bought a wireless router and there may be a few
ways to get at the music via that or cable.
I can now *see* the C Drive on the old WinME machine....haven't tried
anything major yet, but you could also transfer by cable, to the best of my
knowledge.
Noel should be on here about 1 am EST.
Cheers.....Heather

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it messed up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer this way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Mart]

SSAP, your problem really needs defining a little more clearly.

Post by SSAP
My PC is not allowing me to save any sort of audio
to CD: (Windows ME)

Are you saying that you can save (burn) other types of files (.doc, .txt
etc.) to your CD but NOT .wav or .mpg's or even create Audio CD's?
What 'Burning' software are you using e.g. Nero, Adaptec, Roxio, etc.?

Post by SSAP
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is
not loaded. Install via Windows Contol Panel.

Would suggest that you can't PLAY the sounds. The MCI Sound Driver would not
(normally) be required for copying and burning the files to your CD.

If your problem is with the burning operation ONLY, then you might need to
re-install your CD Burning software. However, if the error report occurs
when trying to PLAY the music, then (as Heather has alluded, elsewhere) you
may have to re-install your sound card.

Post by SSAP
Upon digging around this is all I found that referenced
(PCMCIA) - No PC card sockets are installed.

Is probably a 'red herring' as PCMCIA sockets are only (usually) installed
on laptops!!

Post by SSAP
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower
and transfer this way.

Yes - several options - but first, try to ascertain the 'real' underlying
problem.

Mart

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it messed up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer this way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Mart]

OK, let's just clarify a little further :-

... I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD

Are you SURE that you can't also save the 'original' .wav and .mpg's (as
data files)??

- it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.

Note that 'Audio' are 'modified' .wav of .mpg (etc.) files which are
'converted' to .cda files by your Burning software to make an 'Audio CD'.

In the meantime - assuming you can copy (burn) your .wav or .mpg files to CD
(as you can with your .doc, .jpg etc. files - after all they are only 'data
files') then you should be able to transfer all your music files to your new
pc by using CD's.

Note also that you cannot save the actual .cda formatted files to your hard
drive. (You can of course, save the 44 byte 'descriptor' part - but that'
neither use nor ornament <g>)

If you are trying to 'rip' tracks from Audio CD's to convert to .wav's etc.,
(or vice-verca) then you *may* need special software e.g CDex (
http://cd-to-mp3.audiolaunch.com/cd-ripper/ ) but your existing burning
software *should* be able to do this.

Mart

Hi Mart: Yes you are correct in that I can save/burn other file
extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD - it is the audio that can't be saved or
copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.
My son also reminded me that mpg's cannot be changed to .wav (or was/is
that
the other way around?!) I do have .wav that he says he can not convert
and
copy to his audio player .
Burning software: There are two Adaptec versions installed, neither will
work for the audio burn (but will for the other file types)
1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD
2: Adaptec\DirectCD
I am currently looking at the "Sounds and Multimedia Properties" > Devices
as well as the "System Properties" > Device Manager > Sound, Video and
Game
Controllers.
I see "Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI (WDM)
1. Driver is enabled
or
2. This device is working properly.
I will standby for suggestions but when any of you are ready for bed -
just
tell me and we can carry on again at your convenience.

Post by Mart
SSAP, your problem really needs defining a little more clearly.

Post by SSAP
My PC is not allowing me to save any sort of audio
to CD: (Windows ME)

Are you saying that you can save (burn) other types of files (.doc, .txt
etc.) to your CD but NOT .wav or .mpg's or even create Audio CD's?
What 'Burning' software are you using e.g. Nero, Adaptec, Roxio, etc.?

Post by SSAP
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is
not loaded. Install via Windows Contol Panel.

Would suggest that you can't PLAY the sounds. The MCI Sound Driver would not
(normally) be required for copying and burning the files to your CD.
If your problem is with the burning operation ONLY, then you might need to
re-install your CD Burning software. However, if the error report occurs
when trying to PLAY the music, then (as Heather has alluded, elsewhere) you
may have to re-install your sound card.

Post by SSAP
Upon digging around this is all I found that referenced
(PCMCIA) - No PC card sockets are installed.

Is probably a 'red herring' as PCMCIA sockets are only (usually) installed
on laptops!!

Post by SSAP
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower
and transfer this way.

Yes - several options - but first, try to ascertain the 'real' underlying
problem.
Mart

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it
messed
up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer
this
way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Heather]

DUH!! Thank goodness you got up early. I burned all of my mp3's as *data
files* to CD's and transferred them to this XP computer and they play just
fine. Somehow I missed that in his original explanation.

Or he can just play them from the CD drive if he wishes. Easy CD Creator 4
is pretty old, but it should work. No point in getting a new Roxio version
(they bought out Easy CD, SSAP)....but make sure you get either Nero or
Roxio on your new computer.

Night.....Heather

Post by Mart
OK, let's just clarify a little further :-

... I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD

Are you SURE that you can't also save the 'original' .wav and .mpg's (as
data files)??

- it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.

Note that 'Audio' are 'modified' .wav of .mpg (etc.) files which are
'converted' to .cda files by your Burning software to make an 'Audio CD'.
In the meantime - assuming you can copy (burn) your .wav or .mpg files to
CD (as you can with your .doc, .jpg etc. files - after all they are only
'data files') then you should be able to transfer all your music files to
your new pc by using CD's.
Note also that you cannot save the actual .cda formatted files to your
hard drive. (You can of course, save the 44 byte 'descriptor' part - but
that' neither use nor ornament <g>)
If you are trying to 'rip' tracks from Audio CD's to convert to .wav's
etc., (or vice-verca) then you *may* need special software e.g CDex (
http://cd-to-mp3.audiolaunch.com/cd-ripper/ ) but your existing burning
software *should* be able to do this.
Mart

Hi Mart: Yes you are correct in that I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD - it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.
My son also reminded me that mpg's cannot be changed to .wav (or was/is that
the other way around?!) I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and
copy to his audio player .
Burning software: There are two Adaptec versions installed, neither will
work for the audio burn (but will for the other file types)
1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD
2: Adaptec\DirectCD
I am currently looking at the "Sounds and Multimedia Properties" > Devices
as well as the "System Properties" > Device Manager > Sound, Video and Game
Controllers.
I see "Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI (WDM)
1. Driver is enabled
or
2. This device is working properly.
I will standby for suggestions but when any of you are ready for bed - just
tell me and we can carry on again at your convenience.

Post by Mart
SSAP, your problem really needs defining a little more clearly.

Post by SSAP
My PC is not allowing me to save any sort of audio
to CD: (Windows ME)

Are you saying that you can save (burn) other types of files (.doc, .txt
etc.) to your CD but NOT .wav or .mpg's or even create Audio CD's?
What 'Burning' software are you using e.g. Nero, Adaptec, Roxio, etc.?

Post by SSAP
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is
not loaded. Install via Windows Contol Panel.

Would suggest that you can't PLAY the sounds. The MCI Sound Driver would not
(normally) be required for copying and burning the files to your CD.
If your problem is with the burning operation ONLY, then you might need to
re-install your CD Burning software. However, if the error report occurs
when trying to PLAY the music, then (as Heather has alluded, elsewhere) you
may have to re-install your sound card.

Post by SSAP
Upon digging around this is all I found that referenced
(PCMCIA) - No PC card sockets are installed.

Is probably a 'red herring' as PCMCIA sockets are only (usually) installed
on laptops!!

Post by SSAP
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower
and transfer this way.

Yes - several options - but first, try to ascertain the 'real' underlying
problem.
Mart

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it
messed
up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer
this
way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Mart]

Heather wrote :-

..... I burned all of my mp3's as *data files* to CD's ..... and they
play just fine.

..... And saved an awful lot of hard drive space too <vbg>

Mart

DUH!! Thank goodness you got up early. I burned all of my mp3's as *data
files* to CD's and transferred them to this XP computer and they play just
fine. Somehow I missed that in his original explanation.
Or he can just play them from the CD drive if he wishes. Easy CD Creator
4 is pretty old, but it should work. No point in getting a new Roxio
version (they bought out Easy CD, SSAP)....but make sure you get either
Nero or Roxio on your new computer.
Night.....Heather

Post by Mart
OK, let's just clarify a little further :-

... I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD

Are you SURE that you can't also save the 'original' .wav and .mpg's (as
data files)??

- it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.

Note that 'Audio' are 'modified' .wav of .mpg (etc.) files which are
'converted' to .cda files by your Burning software to make an 'Audio CD'.
In the meantime - assuming you can copy (burn) your .wav or .mpg files to
CD (as you can with your .doc, .jpg etc. files - after all they are only
'data files') then you should be able to transfer all your music files to
your new pc by using CD's.
Note also that you cannot save the actual .cda formatted files to your
hard drive. (You can of course, save the 44 byte 'descriptor' part - but
that' neither use nor ornament <g>)
If you are trying to 'rip' tracks from Audio CD's to convert to .wav's
etc., (or vice-verca) then you *may* need special software e.g CDex (
http://cd-to-mp3.audiolaunch.com/cd-ripper/ ) but your existing burning
software *should* be able to do this.
Mart

Hi Mart: Yes you are correct in that I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD - it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.
My son also reminded me that mpg's cannot be changed to .wav (or was/is that
the other way around?!) I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and
copy to his audio player .
Burning software: There are two Adaptec versions installed, neither will
work for the audio burn (but will for the other file types)
1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD
2: Adaptec\DirectCD
I am currently looking at the "Sounds and Multimedia Properties" > Devices
as well as the "System Properties" > Device Manager > Sound, Video and Game
Controllers.
I see "Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI (WDM)
1. Driver is enabled
or
2. This device is working properly.
I will standby for suggestions but when any of you are ready for bed - just
tell me and we can carry on again at your convenience.

Post by Mart
SSAP, your problem really needs defining a little more clearly.

Post by SSAP
My PC is not allowing me to save any sort of audio
to CD: (Windows ME)

Are you saying that you can save (burn) other types of files (.doc, .txt
etc.) to your CD but NOT .wav or .mpg's or even create Audio CD's?
What 'Burning' software are you using e.g. Nero, Adaptec, Roxio, etc.?

Post by SSAP
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is
not loaded. Install via Windows Contol Panel.

Would suggest that you can't PLAY the sounds. The MCI Sound Driver would not
(normally) be required for copying and burning the files to your CD.
If your problem is with the burning operation ONLY, then you might need to
re-install your CD Burning software. However, if the error report occurs
when trying to PLAY the music, then (as Heather has alluded, elsewhere) you
may have to re-install your sound card.

Post by SSAP
Upon digging around this is all I found that referenced
(PCMCIA) - No PC card sockets are installed.

Is probably a 'red herring' as PCMCIA sockets are only (usually) installed
on laptops!!

Post by SSAP
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower
and transfer this way.

Yes - several options - but first, try to ascertain the 'real' underlying
problem.
Mart

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it
messed
up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer
this
way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Heather]

Post by Mart
Heather wrote :-

..... I burned all of my mp3's as *data files* to CD's ..... and they
play just fine.

..... And saved an awful lot of hard drive space too <vbg>

LOL!! 1500 mp3's?? Nah. I still only used half of my 40 gig HD on WinME
with everything. Now that I have 120 gig, I will have "to go some" to fill
it up.

My downloading days are over coz I have 99.9% of what I wanted. And I did
75% of it on dialup. Btw....WinMX bit the dust, due to US Government
interference and threats of a lawsuit. Some of the more enterprising types
involved with it got it going again (can we spell h-a-c-k-e-r-s??) I
couldn't get it to download though. I have eMule on here, but haven't used
it.

XX Figgs...rushing to get ready for Elayne's arrival on Sunday. Why, oh
why, do I leave everything to the last minute?? (VBG)

Post by Mart
Mart

DUH!! Thank goodness you got up early. I burned all of my mp3's as
*data files* to CD's and transferred them to this XP computer and they
play just fine. Somehow I missed that in his original explanation.
Or he can just play them from the CD drive if he wishes. Easy CD Creator
4 is pretty old, but it should work. No point in getting a new Roxio
version (they bought out Easy CD, SSAP)....but make sure you get either
Nero or Roxio on your new computer.
Night.....Heather

Post by Mart
OK, let's just clarify a little further :-

... I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD

Are you SURE that you can't also save the 'original' .wav and .mpg's (as
data files)??

- it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.

Note that 'Audio' are 'modified' .wav of .mpg (etc.) files which are
'converted' to .cda files by your Burning software to make an 'Audio CD'.
In the meantime - assuming you can copy (burn) your .wav or .mpg files
to CD (as you can with your .doc, .jpg etc. files - after all they are
only 'data files') then you should be able to transfer all your music
files to your new pc by using CD's.
Note also that you cannot save the actual .cda formatted files to your
hard drive. (You can of course, save the 44 byte 'descriptor' part - but
that' neither use nor ornament <g>)
If you are trying to 'rip' tracks from Audio CD's to convert to .wav's
etc., (or vice-verca) then you *may* need special software e.g CDex (
http://cd-to-mp3.audiolaunch.com/cd-ripper/ ) but your existing burning
software *should* be able to do this.
Mart

Hi Mart: Yes you are correct in that I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD - it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.
My son also reminded me that mpg's cannot be changed to .wav (or was/is that
the other way around?!) I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and
copy to his audio player .
Burning software: There are two Adaptec versions installed, neither will
work for the audio burn (but will for the other file types)
1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD
2: Adaptec\DirectCD
I am currently looking at the "Sounds and Multimedia Properties" > Devices
as well as the "System Properties" > Device Manager > Sound, Video and Game
Controllers.
I see "Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI (WDM)
1. Driver is enabled
or
2. This device is working properly.
I will standby for suggestions but when any of you are ready for bed - just
tell me and we can carry on again at your convenience.

Post by Mart
SSAP, your problem really needs defining a little more clearly.

Post by SSAP
My PC is not allowing me to save any sort of audio
to CD: (Windows ME)

Are you saying that you can save (burn) other types of files (.doc, .txt
etc.) to your CD but NOT .wav or .mpg's or even create Audio CD's?
What 'Burning' software are you using e.g. Nero, Adaptec, Roxio, etc.?

Post by SSAP
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is
not loaded. Install via Windows Contol Panel.

Would suggest that you can't PLAY the sounds. The MCI Sound Driver would not
(normally) be required for copying and burning the files to your CD.
If your problem is with the burning operation ONLY, then you might need to
re-install your CD Burning software. However, if the error report occurs
when trying to PLAY the music, then (as Heather has alluded, elsewhere) you
may have to re-install your sound card.

Post by SSAP
Upon digging around this is all I found that referenced
(PCMCIA) - No PC card sockets are installed.

Is probably a 'red herring' as PCMCIA sockets are only (usually) installed
on laptops!!

Post by SSAP
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower
and transfer this way.

Yes - several options - but first, try to ascertain the 'real' underlying
problem.
Mart

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it
messed
up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer
this
way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Mart]

Heather/Mart/Heather wrote:-

Post by Heather

Post by Mart

..... I burned all of my mp3's as *data files* to CD's ..... and they
play just fine.

..... And saved an awful lot of hard drive space too <vbg>

LOL!! 1500 mp3's?? Nah. I still only used half of my 40 gig HD on WinME
with everything. Now that I have 120 gig, I will have "to go some" to
fill it up.

Sure enough Heather, but I was really alluding to the worst case scenario of
1500 .wav's. Now where's my mainframe? <g>

Mart

<snip>

[SSAP]

I will see if I can burn them as a data file (hadn't tried that - duh!).

I'll let you know how I make out
Thanks

Post by Mart
OK, let's just clarify a little further :-

... I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD

Are you SURE that you can't also save the 'original' .wav and .mpg's (as
data files)??

- it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.

Note that 'Audio' are 'modified' .wav of .mpg (etc.) files which are
'converted' to .cda files by your Burning software to make an 'Audio CD'.
In the meantime - assuming you can copy (burn) your .wav or .mpg files to CD
(as you can with your .doc, .jpg etc. files - after all they are only 'data
files') then you should be able to transfer all your music files to your new
pc by using CD's.
Note also that you cannot save the actual .cda formatted files to your hard
drive. (You can of course, save the 44 byte 'descriptor' part - but that'
neither use nor ornament <g>)
If you are trying to 'rip' tracks from Audio CD's to convert to .wav's etc.,
(or vice-verca) then you *may* need special software e.g CDex (
http://cd-to-mp3.audiolaunch.com/cd-ripper/ ) but your existing burning
software *should* be able to do this.
Mart

Hi Mart: Yes you are correct in that I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD - it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.
My son also reminded me that mpg's cannot be changed to .wav (or was/is that
the other way around?!) I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and
copy to his audio player .
Burning software: There are two Adaptec versions installed, neither will
work for the audio burn (but will for the other file types)
1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD
2: Adaptec\DirectCD
I am currently looking at the "Sounds and Multimedia Properties" > Devices
as well as the "System Properties" > Device Manager > Sound, Video and Game
Controllers.
I see "Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI (WDM)
1. Driver is enabled
or
2. This device is working properly.
I will standby for suggestions but when any of you are ready for bed - just
tell me and we can carry on again at your convenience.

Post by Mart
SSAP, your problem really needs defining a little more clearly.

Post by SSAP
My PC is not allowing me to save any sort of audio
to CD: (Windows ME)

Are you saying that you can save (burn) other types of files (.doc, .txt
etc.) to your CD but NOT .wav or .mpg's or even create Audio CD's?
What 'Burning' software are you using e.g. Nero, Adaptec, Roxio, etc.?

Post by SSAP
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is
not loaded. Install via Windows Contol Panel.

Would suggest that you can't PLAY the sounds. The MCI Sound Driver would not
(normally) be required for copying and burning the files to your CD.
If your problem is with the burning operation ONLY, then you might need to
re-install your CD Burning software. However, if the error report occurs
when trying to PLAY the music, then (as Heather has alluded, elsewhere) you
may have to re-install your sound card.

Post by SSAP
Upon digging around this is all I found that referenced
(PCMCIA) - No PC card sockets are installed.

Is probably a 'red herring' as PCMCIA sockets are only (usually) installed
on laptops!!

Post by SSAP
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower
and transfer this way.

Yes - several options - but first, try to ascertain the 'real' underlying
problem.
Mart

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it
messed
up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer
this
way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Mart]

Just be aware that you can't save an Audio track directly to HDD *in .cda
format* - it must be converted to .wav or mp3 etc.

But why not just leave them on the CD's as .cda's or better still as
.mp3's - that way, you can save HDD space!

Again, be aware that .mp3's are compressed .wav (or post-'converted' .cda)
files and are by definition, not as 'hi-fidelity' as the original .cda or
.wav files (if you can hear the difference - not many people can <vbg>) -
but the bonus is that you can get about 10 times as many songs on a CD

Good luck

Mart

Post by SSAP
I will see if I can burn them as a data file (hadn't tried that - duh!).
I'll let you know how I make out
Thanks

Post by Mart
OK, let's just clarify a little further :-

... I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD

Are you SURE that you can't also save the 'original' .wav and .mpg's (as
data files)??

- it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.

Note that 'Audio' are 'modified' .wav of .mpg (etc.) files which are
'converted' to .cda files by your Burning software to make an 'Audio CD'.
In the meantime - assuming you can copy (burn) your .wav or .mpg files to CD
(as you can with your .doc, .jpg etc. files - after all they are only 'data
files') then you should be able to transfer all your music files to your new
pc by using CD's.
Note also that you cannot save the actual .cda formatted files to your hard
drive. (You can of course, save the 44 byte 'descriptor' part - but that'
neither use nor ornament <g>)
If you are trying to 'rip' tracks from Audio CD's to convert to .wav's etc.,
(or vice-verca) then you *may* need special software e.g CDex (
http://cd-to-mp3.audiolaunch.com/cd-ripper/ ) but your existing burning
software *should* be able to do this.
Mart

Hi Mart: Yes you are correct in that I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD - it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.
My son also reminded me that mpg's cannot be changed to .wav (or was/is that
the other way around?!) I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and
copy to his audio player .
Burning software: There are two Adaptec versions installed, neither will
work for the audio burn (but will for the other file types)
1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD
2: Adaptec\DirectCD
I am currently looking at the "Sounds and Multimedia Properties" > Devices
as well as the "System Properties" > Device Manager > Sound, Video and Game
Controllers.
I see "Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI (WDM)
1. Driver is enabled
or
2. This device is working properly.
I will standby for suggestions but when any of you are ready for bed - just
tell me and we can carry on again at your convenience.

Post by Mart
SSAP, your problem really needs defining a little more clearly.

Post by SSAP
My PC is not allowing me to save any sort of audio
to CD: (Windows ME)

Are you saying that you can save (burn) other types of files (.doc, .txt
etc.) to your CD but NOT .wav or .mpg's or even create Audio CD's?
What 'Burning' software are you using e.g. Nero, Adaptec, Roxio, etc.?

Post by SSAP
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is
not loaded. Install via Windows Contol Panel.

Would suggest that you can't PLAY the sounds. The MCI Sound Driver
would
not
(normally) be required for copying and burning the files to your CD.
If your problem is with the burning operation ONLY, then you might
need
to
re-install your CD Burning software. However, if the error report occurs
when trying to PLAY the music, then (as Heather has alluded,
elsewhere)
you
may have to re-install your sound card.

Post by SSAP
Upon digging around this is all I found that referenced
(PCMCIA) - No PC card sockets are installed.

Is probably a 'red herring' as PCMCIA sockets are only (usually) installed
on laptops!!

Post by SSAP
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower
and transfer this way.

Yes - several options - but first, try to ascertain the 'real' underlying
problem.
Mart

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it
messed
up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer
this
way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Mart]

BTW :-

My son also reminded me that mpg's (probably .mp3's) cannot
be changed to .wav (or was/is that the other way around?!)
I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and copy to his
audio player .

That (.wav to .mp3 and .mp3 to .wav) is possible using the CDex utility I
mentioned earlier.

Mart

[SSAP]

Since my last post I have attempted to burn the mg3 files to a CD.
I tried 4 different methods (using 643 of the 650 available space & 300 of
the 650 available space) using: 1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD and
2: Adaptec\DirectCD

All 4 CDs resulted in error: all files (named mp3's) showed in the CD
directory but only about 15% of them were able to be opened or even copied to
the new system.

Using Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD, the following error message was
given in the "closing session" process (copying files & writing tracks
*appeared* to be successful). Error message received: Recording Phase (99%)
Errors reported by output device. The following errors occurred while
creating CD:
T0100:I/O error (o04/09/00) - CD Recorder error - track following error
T7118: TrackWriter error - Command retry failed

....... the new PC did successfully copy the *15% good* mp3 files and
allowed me to play them.

Using Adaptec\DirectCD, I received no error messages during the "copy to"
process or when I "closed" the CD to be allowed to play on other systems.
...... When I placed that CD in the new PC it stated that the CD was corrupt
and would not allow me to view the files.


I then used Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD to copy data files (NO
mp3/wav) and used the "Close Session and Leave CD Open" option to see if the
new PC would accept this CD - the new PC read and copied this CD successfully.

I then tried the same type of "Close Session and Leave CD Open" option to
see if the new PC would accept this CD containing mp3's ----- The closing
seesion basically gave me the same error message as previously but added
T7127 :
Error message received: Recording Phase (99%) Errors reported by output
device The following errors occurred while creating CD:
T0100:I/O error (o04/09/00) - CD Recorder error - track following error
T7127:TrackWriter error - flush failed
T7118: TrackWriter error - Command retry failed

T0100, ( 9I/O error (o04/09/00) - CD Recorder error - track following error
)explanation of error:
Reason for receiving this message: The CD-Recorder is having trouble
following the track.
What to do:
Clean the CD.
Try turning the CD-Recorder power off and on.
See the documentation provided with your CD-Recorder or contact the
manufacturer of the drive.

T7127, ( TrackWriter error - Command retry failed ) explanation of error:
Reason for receiving this message:
The trackwriter received an error while trying to write to the CD-Recorder,
tried resending the command, and failed again. This error is usually
accompanied by additional errors that describe the original error.

What to do:
Review the error message(s) that accompany this one.

Check for faulty or disconnected cables between your computer and your
CD-Recorder.

Check for improper termination of the bus (SCSI only).

Restart your computer.

T7118, ( TrackWriter error - Flush Failed ) explanation of error
Reason for receiving this message:
An error occurred while trying to write to the CD-Recorder. After trying
again to write to the CD-Recorder without success, Easy CD Creator sent a
flush command to the CD-Recorder, but the flush command failed. Most likely
this error message is accompanied by another error message that describes the
cause of the original problem.

What to do:
Retry.

Reinstall Easy CD Creator.
------------------------------- The new PC only copied about 20 of the 150
mg3 files then stopped with an error message - which I forgot to write down.


My computer is quite loaded with *stuff* !
Free: 3.26 GB / Used 25.3 GB, of 28.6 GB capacity

I will wait for your suggestion but I'm quessing you might tell me to
uninstall the "Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD and the Adaptec\DirectCD "
and then reinstall it? I do have the original CD containing the software.

Concerning the
Quoting Mart : If you are trying to 'rip' tracks from Audio CD's to convert
to .wav's

Post by Mart

etc.,
(or vice-verca) then you *may* need special software e.g CDex (
http://cd-to-mp3.audiolaunch.com/cd-ripper/ ) but your existing burning
software *should* be able to do this.

Personally I wasn't doing it - son was, but that "ripping" option also
disappeared somewhere along the line (most likely the same time the program
started with the mp3/wav difficulties. Before using the Cdex utility should
we wait and see what the uninstall/reinstall of Adaptec does for us ??

Oh ya ... Heather, I'm a "she". Your reference to he and him didn't bother
me one bit except for the fact that I'm easily confused :) and when I first
read your post I thought you were referring to Mart, not myself.

Thanks again for the help, I look forward to your suggestions on what my
next step should be.

SSAP - (Connie)
sorry for the length of this post!

Post by Mart
BTW :-

My son also reminded me that mpg's (probably .mp3's) cannot
be changed to .wav (or was/is that the other way around?!)
I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and copy to his
audio player .

That (.wav to .mp3 and .mp3 to .wav) is possible using the CDex utility I
mentioned earlier.
Mart

[Mart]

Connie, just a very quick 'first thoughts' for a long post.

I don't *think* that the problems are necessarily due to you trying to
copy/burn .mp3 files.

A couple of suggestions to try/eliminate first:-

1) Defrag your HDD first - but as you don't have (very) much spare capacity
this might not really help.
2) Try burning at a lower (slowest) speed and/or a different brand of
CD-R's.
3) Use CD-RW's (saves wasting CD-R's <g> and you can erase and use again)
and burn only small batches until you can clear the space from your HDD
(Defrag again as/when possible)
4) If using CD-RW's, definitely burn at the slowest speed possible!!
5) Try burning with the 'Verify' option enabled (if not already set)

NB . Re- 2) Not all brands of CD's burn as well as others.

Perhaps someone else has got some further thoughts/ideas

Mart

Post by SSAP
Since my last post I have attempted to burn the mg3 files to a CD.
I tried 4 different methods (using 643 of the 650 available space & 300 of
the 650 available space) using: 1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD and
2: Adaptec\DirectCD
All 4 CDs resulted in error: all files (named mp3's) showed in the CD
directory but only about 15% of them were able to be opened or even copied to
the new system.
Using Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD, the following error message was
given in the "closing session" process (copying files & writing tracks
*appeared* to be successful). Error message received: Recording Phase (99%)
Errors reported by output device. The following errors occurred while
T0100:I/O error (o04/09/00) - CD Recorder error - track following error
T7118: TrackWriter error - Command retry failed
....... the new PC did successfully copy the *15% good* mp3 files and
allowed me to play them.
Using Adaptec\DirectCD, I received no error messages during the "copy to"
process or when I "closed" the CD to be allowed to play on other systems.
...... When I placed that CD in the new PC it stated that the CD was corrupt
and would not allow me to view the files.
I then used Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD to copy data files (NO
mp3/wav) and used the "Close Session and Leave CD Open" option to see if the
new PC would accept this CD - the new PC read and copied this CD successfully.
I then tried the same type of "Close Session and Leave CD Open" option to
see if the new PC would accept this CD containing mp3's ----- The closing
seesion basically gave me the same error message as previously but added
Error message received: Recording Phase (99%) Errors reported by output
T0100:I/O error (o04/09/00) - CD Recorder error - track following error
T7127:TrackWriter error - flush failed
T7118: TrackWriter error - Command retry failed
T0100, ( 9I/O error (o04/09/00) - CD Recorder error - track following error
Reason for receiving this message: The CD-Recorder is having trouble
following the track.
Clean the CD.
Try turning the CD-Recorder power off and on.
See the documentation provided with your CD-Recorder or contact the
manufacturer of the drive.
The trackwriter received an error while trying to write to the
CD-Recorder,
tried resending the command, and failed again. This error is usually
accompanied by additional errors that describe the original error.
Review the error message(s) that accompany this one.
Check for faulty or disconnected cables between your computer and your
CD-Recorder.
Check for improper termination of the bus (SCSI only).
Restart your computer.
T7118, ( TrackWriter error - Flush Failed ) explanation of error
An error occurred while trying to write to the CD-Recorder. After trying
again to write to the CD-Recorder without success, Easy CD Creator sent a
flush command to the CD-Recorder, but the flush command failed. Most likely
this error message is accompanied by another error message that describes the
cause of the original problem.
Retry.
Reinstall Easy CD Creator.
------------------------------- The new PC only copied about 20 of the 150
mg3 files then stopped with an error message - which I forgot to write down.
My computer is quite loaded with *stuff* !
Free: 3.26 GB / Used 25.3 GB, of 28.6 GB capacity
I will wait for your suggestion but I'm quessing you might tell me to
uninstall the "Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD and the
Adaptec\DirectCD "
and then reinstall it? I do have the original CD containing the software.
Concerning the
Quoting Mart : If you are trying to 'rip' tracks from Audio CD's to convert
to .wav's

Post by Mart

etc.,
(or vice-verca) then you *may* need special software e.g CDex (
http://cd-to-mp3.audiolaunch.com/cd-ripper/ ) but your existing burning
software *should* be able to do this.

Personally I wasn't doing it - son was, but that "ripping" option also
disappeared somewhere along the line (most likely the same time the program
started with the mp3/wav difficulties. Before using the Cdex utility should
we wait and see what the uninstall/reinstall of Adaptec does for us ??
Oh ya ... Heather, I'm a "she". Your reference to he and him didn't bother
me one bit except for the fact that I'm easily confused :) and when I first
read your post I thought you were referring to Mart, not myself.
Thanks again for the help, I look forward to your suggestions on what my
next step should be.
SSAP - (Connie)
sorry for the length of this post!

Post by Mart
BTW :-

My son also reminded me that mpg's (probably .mp3's) cannot
be changed to .wav (or was/is that the other way around?!)
I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and copy to his
audio player .

That (.wav to .mp3 and .mp3 to .wav) is possible using the CDex utility I
mentioned earlier.
Mart

[Heather]

Baffled, Connie....but I keep getting the nagging thought and have to
ask.....did you burn the mp3's as *data*. In the same manner as you would
back up your files and documents.

And I will add to some of Mart's good suggestions. See inline....

Post by Mart
Connie, just a very quick 'first thoughts' for a long post.
I don't *think* that the problems are necessarily due to you trying to
copy/burn .mp3 files.
A couple of suggestions to try/eliminate first:-
1) Defrag your HDD first - but as you don't have (very) much spare
capacity this might not really help.

Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then scandisk and defrag.

Post by Mart
2) Try burning at a lower (slowest) speed and/or a different brand of
CD-R's.

Excellent idea....try using say 4X instead of 6X (can't remember how fast
Adaptec 4 burns.

I will also add 2 important things that I learned while using Adaptec 4 and
WinME. Use only CD's that have either a silver or blue recording side. I
found that Verbatim were usually very good. Gold surfaces, as in Kodak
Gold, will not record.....or wouldn't for me. Took me a long time to figure
that one out.

And MOST IMPORTANT of all......use CAD to shut down unneeded programs and
disconnect from the Internet just before recording. I have a sneaking
suspicion that programs like Zone Alarm and your AV muck stuff up if they
try to connect to home base, or react to a probe. I ALWAYS did what I just
said.

Other than that, if you could get your hands on a copy of Roxio 6, I think
it might just do the trick. I bought it on eBay for $10 Cdn. and it was
worth $50!! Solved all my problems.

Cheers....Heather

Post by Mart
3) Use CD-RW's (saves wasting CD-R's <g> and you can erase and use again)
and burn only small batches until you can clear the space from your HDD
(Defrag again as/when possible)
4) If using CD-RW's, definitely burn at the slowest speed possible!!
5) Try burning with the 'Verify' option enabled (if not already set)
NB . Re- 2) Not all brands of CD's burn as well as others.
Perhaps someone else has got some further thoughts/ideas
Mart

Post by SSAP
Since my last post I have attempted to burn the mg3 files to a CD.
I tried 4 different methods (using 643 of the 650 available space & 300 of
the 650 available space) using: 1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD
and
2: Adaptec\DirectCD
All 4 CDs resulted in error: all files (named mp3's) showed in the CD
directory but only about 15% of them were able to be opened or even copied to
the new system.
Using Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD, the following error message was
given in the "closing session" process (copying files & writing tracks
*appeared* to be successful). Error message received: Recording Phase (99%)
Errors reported by output device. The following errors occurred while
T0100:I/O error (o04/09/00) - CD Recorder error - track following error
T7118: TrackWriter error - Command retry failed
....... the new PC did successfully copy the *15% good* mp3 files and
allowed me to play them.
Using Adaptec\DirectCD, I received no error messages during the "copy to"
process or when I "closed" the CD to be allowed to play on other systems.
...... When I placed that CD in the new PC it stated that the CD was corrupt
and would not allow me to view the files.
I then used Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD to copy data files (NO
mp3/wav) and used the "Close Session and Leave CD Open" option to see if the
new PC would accept this CD - the new PC read and copied this CD successfully.
I then tried the same type of "Close Session and Leave CD Open" option to
see if the new PC would accept this CD containing mp3's ----- The closing
seesion basically gave me the same error message as previously but added
Error message received: Recording Phase (99%) Errors reported by output
T0100:I/O error (o04/09/00) - CD Recorder error - track following error
T7127:TrackWriter error - flush failed
T7118: TrackWriter error - Command retry failed
T0100, ( 9I/O error (o04/09/00) - CD Recorder error - track following error
Reason for receiving this message: The CD-Recorder is having trouble
following the track.
Clean the CD.
Try turning the CD-Recorder power off and on.
See the documentation provided with your CD-Recorder or contact the
manufacturer of the drive.
The trackwriter received an error while trying to write to the CD-Recorder,
tried resending the command, and failed again. This error is usually
accompanied by additional errors that describe the original error.
Review the error message(s) that accompany this one.
Check for faulty or disconnected cables between your computer and your
CD-Recorder.
Check for improper termination of the bus (SCSI only).
Restart your computer.
T7118, ( TrackWriter error - Flush Failed ) explanation of error
An error occurred while trying to write to the CD-Recorder. After trying
again to write to the CD-Recorder without success, Easy CD Creator sent a
flush command to the CD-Recorder, but the flush command failed. Most likely
this error message is accompanied by another error message that describes the
cause of the original problem.
Retry.
Reinstall Easy CD Creator.
------------------------------- The new PC only copied about 20 of the 150
mg3 files then stopped with an error message - which I forgot to write down.
My computer is quite loaded with *stuff* !
Free: 3.26 GB / Used 25.3 GB, of 28.6 GB capacity
I will wait for your suggestion but I'm quessing you might tell me to
uninstall the "Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD and the
Adaptec\DirectCD "
and then reinstall it? I do have the original CD containing the software.
Concerning the
Quoting Mart : If you are trying to 'rip' tracks from Audio CD's to convert
to .wav's

Post by Mart

etc.,
(or vice-verca) then you *may* need special software e.g CDex (
http://cd-to-mp3.audiolaunch.com/cd-ripper/ ) but your existing burning
software *should* be able to do this.

Personally I wasn't doing it - son was, but that "ripping" option also
disappeared somewhere along the line (most likely the same time the program
started with the mp3/wav difficulties. Before using the Cdex utility should
we wait and see what the uninstall/reinstall of Adaptec does for us ??
Oh ya ... Heather, I'm a "she". Your reference to he and him didn't bother
me one bit except for the fact that I'm easily confused :) and when I first
read your post I thought you were referring to Mart, not myself.
Thanks again for the help, I look forward to your suggestions on what my
next step should be.
SSAP - (Connie)
sorry for the length of this post!

Post by Mart
BTW :-

My son also reminded me that mpg's (probably .mp3's) cannot
be changed to .wav (or was/is that the other way around?!)
I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and copy to his
audio player .

That (.wav to .mp3 and .mp3 to .wav) is possible using the CDex utility I
mentioned earlier.
Mart

[SSAP]

Heather and Mart:
Well, I have been picking away at moving the mp3's. I select about 90 files
(using CD-RW) of which about 60 are *correct* and can be copied onto the new
PC. Have set defaults to "Verify" and write speed of 2X

The error messages I gave previously are still showing up during the closing
session. I just work backwards up the list until I find the last one that is
workable.

I can accept this way to do it but am now wondering about pertinant (sp)
software programs (Simply Accounting) for example that I want to move to the
new PC and if they contain any sound files that will bugger up the transfer.
I moved one program and have found that the exe file extension was not
included at the end of a file name and consequently I can't get that program
to open. I used the "createCD" utility.

Any comments of why the exe file extension (could be other ext missed also-
I have checked thoroughly yet) didn't get included as part of the transfer
(copy) - it is listed as .exe on the CD I used to move it. Would the virus
(nortons BTW) program have had something to do with this failure to properly
copy?

"Heather" wrote:> Baffled, Connie....but I keep getting the nagging thought and have to
ask.....did you burn the mp3's as *data*. In the same manner as you would
back up your files and documents.

Yes (I think so) - used the "dataCD" and drug-in all files the same way

Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then scandisk and defrag.

Just to double check - when you are speaking off deleting *Temp* files you
are referring to C:\WINDOWS\TEMP , but not the file folder itself ...
correct?
The disk cleanup included the removal of files from the TIF and a few other
folders which I followed with the scandisk and defrag.

I am also using the Verbatim CD-RW (silver on one side, grayish on other)
and shut down everything (unneeded programs, internet etc) using CAD.

I will finish moving the mp3's (and deleting ... all 924 of them!!) from
one music folder before my next cleaning/defrag and then I'll look up Roxio 6


I'm getting dangerously close to information overload :) :)

But thanks for all the suggestions - your continued help is appreciated, so
please keep suggesting!

Connie




"Heather" wrote:> Baffled, Connie....but I keep getting the nagging thought
and have to > ask.....did you burn the mp3's as *data*. In the same manner
as you would > back up your files and documents.

And I will add to some of Mart's good suggestions. See inline....

Post by Mart
Connie, just a very quick 'first thoughts' for a long post.
I don't *think* that the problems are necessarily due to you trying to
copy/burn .mp3 files.
A couple of suggestions to try/eliminate first:-
1) Defrag your HDD first - but as you don't have (very) much spare
capacity this might not really help.

Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then scandisk and defrag.

Post by Mart
2) Try burning at a lower (slowest) speed and/or a different brand of
CD-R's.

Excellent idea....try using say 4X instead of 6X (can't remember how fast
Adaptec 4 burns.
I will also add 2 important things that I learned while using Adaptec 4 and
WinME. Use only CD's that have either a silver or blue recording side. I
found that Verbatim were usually very good. Gold surfaces, as in Kodak
Gold, will not record.....or wouldn't for me. Took me a long time to figure
that one out.
And MOST IMPORTANT of all......use CAD to shut down unneeded programs and
disconnect from the Internet just before recording. I have a sneaking
suspicion that programs like Zone Alarm and your AV muck stuff up if they
try to connect to home base, or react to a probe. I ALWAYS did what I just
said.
Other than that, if you could get your hands on a copy of Roxio 6, I think
it might just do the trick. I bought it on eBay for $10 Cdn. and it was
worth $50!! Solved all my problems.
Cheers....Heather

[Heather]

Hi Connie....

Mart is over the pond and I am in Canada, so we operate at different times,
grin.

About the only other thing I could suggest is the uninstall and reinstall of
Adaptec. Plus go to the Roxio website and make sure you have the
updates...I believe there was just one that made it become version 4.05. I
will find the spot, coz it is confusing on that website.

OK....found it, but that is one old program!! I would really suggest you
hit eBay and get at least Roxio 5 or 6. Anything higher will NOT work on
WinME, btw.

http://www.roxio.com/en/support/uk/ecdc/software_updatesv4.jhtml

There are updates on that page. Check your program under Help/About and see
what your version is.

HTH......Heather

Post by SSAP
Well, I have been picking away at moving the mp3's. I select about 90 files
(using CD-RW) of which about 60 are *correct* and can be copied onto the new
PC. Have set defaults to "Verify" and write speed of 2X
The error messages I gave previously are still showing up during the closing
session. I just work backwards up the list until I find the last one that is
workable.
I can accept this way to do it but am now wondering about pertinant (sp)
software programs (Simply Accounting) for example that I want to move to the
new PC and if they contain any sound files that will bugger up the transfer.
I moved one program and have found that the exe file extension was not
included at the end of a file name and consequently I can't get that program
to open. I used the "createCD" utility.
Any comments of why the exe file extension (could be other ext missed also-
I have checked thoroughly yet) didn't get included as part of the transfer
(copy) - it is listed as .exe on the CD I used to move it. Would the virus
(nortons BTW) program have had something to do with this failure to properly
copy?

"Heather" wrote:> Baffled, Connie....but I keep getting the nagging thought and have to
ask.....did you burn the mp3's as *data*. In the same manner as you would
back up your files and documents.

Yes (I think so) - used the "dataCD" and drug-in all files the same way

Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then scandisk and defrag.

Just to double check - when you are speaking off deleting *Temp* files you
are referring to C:\WINDOWS\TEMP , but not the file folder itself ...
correct?
The disk cleanup included the removal of files from the TIF and a few other
folders which I followed with the scandisk and defrag.
I am also using the Verbatim CD-RW (silver on one side, grayish on other)
and shut down everything (unneeded programs, internet etc) using CAD.
I will finish moving the mp3's (and deleting ... all 924 of them!!) from
one music folder before my next cleaning/defrag and then I'll look up Roxio 6
I'm getting dangerously close to information overload :) :)
But thanks for all the suggestions - your continued help is appreciated, so
please keep suggesting!
Connie
"Heather" wrote:> Baffled, Connie....but I keep getting the nagging thought
and have to > ask.....did you burn the mp3's as *data*. In the same manner
as you would > back up your files and documents.

And I will add to some of Mart's good suggestions. See inline....

Post by Mart
Connie, just a very quick 'first thoughts' for a long post.
I don't *think* that the problems are necessarily due to you trying to
copy/burn .mp3 files.
A couple of suggestions to try/eliminate first:-
1) Defrag your HDD first - but as you don't have (very) much spare
capacity this might not really help.

Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then scandisk and defrag.

Post by Mart
2) Try burning at a lower (slowest) speed and/or a different brand of
CD-R's.

Excellent idea....try using say 4X instead of 6X (can't remember how fast
Adaptec 4 burns.
I will also add 2 important things that I learned while using Adaptec 4 and
WinME. Use only CD's that have either a silver or blue recording side.
I
found that Verbatim were usually very good. Gold surfaces, as in Kodak
Gold, will not record.....or wouldn't for me. Took me a long time to figure
that one out.
And MOST IMPORTANT of all......use CAD to shut down unneeded programs and
disconnect from the Internet just before recording. I have a sneaking
suspicion that programs like Zone Alarm and your AV muck stuff up if they
try to connect to home base, or react to a probe. I ALWAYS did what I just
said.
Other than that, if you could get your hands on a copy of Roxio 6, I think
it might just do the trick. I bought it on eBay for $10 Cdn. and it was
worth $50!! Solved all my problems.
Cheers....Heather

[SSAP]

Hi Heather & Mart
Well I don't know how this happened but after doing six transfers of approx
90 mp3 files, each having about 60 *usable copies* ....... all of a sudden it
started doing successful CD creations with NO errors. I gradually worked up
to 150 mp3 files per transfer after getting no errors.

The only thing different I done: used the new PC to erase the CD-RW (old PC
was burning so I was trying to save time). BTW - the new PC's CD-RW Erase
referenced Roxio in the process popup window. My computer terms are pathetic
so I hope you get the jest of what I'm saying.

Thankyou for the link to the upgrade site and the other tips. Tomorrow I'll
delete the mp3 files from the old PC - do a clean, scan and defrag then see
about uninstall/restall/updates if the adaptec program goes haywire again -
time will tell. I'll also into your other suggestions, so I'm alittle
prepared.

I realize that the mp3 files take alot of space so our son can now move,
copy, burn rip or delete from the new PC. Thus giving me working space on
the old PC for the programs (which I like to use) that are not XP friendly.
I know its crazy to have two PCs set up ! *Hard to teach an old dog new
tricks* scenerio, but I'll get there eventually.

Heather when you said to "Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then
scandisk and defrag..... *Temp* files you are referring to C:\WINDOWS\TEMP ,
but not the file folder itself ... correct?

I'll post back with tomorrows results.

BTW - I am from Saskatchewan.

SSAP - Connie

Post by Heather
Hi Connie....
Mart is over the pond and I am in Canada, so we operate at different times,
grin.
About the only other thing I could suggest is the uninstall and reinstall of
Adaptec. Plus go to the Roxio website and make sure you have the
updates...I believe there was just one that made it become version 4.05. I
will find the spot, coz it is confusing on that website.
OK....found it, but that is one old program!! I would really suggest you
hit eBay and get at least Roxio 5 or 6. Anything higher will NOT work on
WinME, btw.
http://www.roxio.com/en/support/uk/ecdc/software_updatesv4.jhtml
There are updates on that page. Check your program under Help/About and see
what your version is.
HTH......Heather

[Mart]

Connie - just a quick response to THIS post (but see my other reply):-

Post by SSAP
The only thing different I done: used the new PC to erase the CD-RW (old PC
was burning so I was trying to save time). BTW - the new PC's CD-RW Erase
referenced Roxio in the process popup window.

There is an interesting reference to issues with erasing CD-RW media in
Andy's tome.
http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq04.html#S4-27

Mart

[Heather]

Post by SSAP
Heather when you said to "Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then
scandisk and defrag..... *Temp* files you are referring to
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP , but not the file folder itself ... correct?

Correct....the ones ending ususally in *.tmp. There will be others with
different extensions, so moving them out to a new folder would be advisable
until you see if they are needed (they never are, grin).

Super to hear that you are progressing so well. But I still think you
should dump Adaptec 4 and get Roxio 5 or 6.

Cheers from Toronto.....Heather

Post by SSAP
Hi Heather & Mart
Well I don't know how this happened but after doing six transfers of approx
90 mp3 files, each having about 60 *usable copies* ....... all of a sudden it
started doing successful CD creations with NO errors. I gradually worked up
to 150 mp3 files per transfer after getting no errors.
The only thing different I done: used the new PC to erase the CD-RW (old PC
was burning so I was trying to save time). BTW - the new PC's CD-RW Erase
referenced Roxio in the process popup window. My computer terms are pathetic
so I hope you get the jest of what I'm saying.
Thankyou for the link to the upgrade site and the other tips. Tomorrow I'll
delete the mp3 files from the old PC - do a clean, scan and defrag then see
about uninstall/restall/updates if the adaptec program goes haywire again -
time will tell. I'll also into your other suggestions, so I'm alittle
prepared.
I realize that the mp3 files take alot of space so our son can now move,
copy, burn rip or delete from the new PC. Thus giving me working space on
the old PC for the programs (which I like to use) that are not XP friendly.
I know its crazy to have two PCs set up ! *Hard to teach an old dog new
tricks* scenerio, but I'll get there eventually.
Heather when you said to "Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then
scandisk and defrag..... *Temp* files you are referring to
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP ,
but not the file folder itself ... correct?
I'll post back with tomorrows results.
BTW - I am from Saskatchewan.
SSAP - Connie

Post by Heather
Hi Connie....
Mart is over the pond and I am in Canada, so we operate at different times,
grin.
About the only other thing I could suggest is the uninstall and reinstall of
Adaptec. Plus go to the Roxio website and make sure you have the
updates...I believe there was just one that made it become version 4.05.
I
will find the spot, coz it is confusing on that website.
OK....found it, but that is one old program!! I would really suggest you
hit eBay and get at least Roxio 5 or 6. Anything higher will NOT work on
WinME, btw.
http://www.roxio.com/en/support/uk/ecdc/software_updatesv4.jhtml
There are updates on that page. Check your program under Help/About and see
what your version is.
HTH......Heather

[Mart]

Connie, Heather made several good points in her reply that to make sure
nothing else is running in the background (Ctrl+Alt+Del and close other
programs down) and disconnect from the internet etc., etc, etc.

However, in my experience, "track following errors" and similar have been
caused by 'media' issues - hence my suggestion of changing to a different
brand of CD. Another thought here is that your CD-ROM burner *may* be aging
(How old is it and has it had a lot of use?). It might also benefit from a
lens-cleaning session. A lens cleaner can be bought from your local PC or
Hi-Fi store.

You say that :-

... I select about 90 files (using CD-RW) of which about 60
are *correct* and can be copied onto the new PC.

Have you tried the 30 failures on their own, or in a different batch(es) -
or do those same 30 files ALWAYS fail?

I realise that you were generalising, but you can see the point I'm trying
to make.

Now a little more worrying is your comment :-

software programs (Simply Accounting) for example that I want to move to the
new PC and if they contain any sound files that will bugger up the transfer.
I moved one program and have found that the exe file extension was not
included at the end of a file name and consequently I can't get that program
to open. I used the "createCD" utility.

Firstly - if I understand you correctly - you can't just 'move' a working
(installed) program to another PC. You CAN move (or copy) its data, of
course, but you MUST re-install the program on the 'new' machine to enable
it to function properly.

But again, you mentioned :-

I moved one program and have found that the exe file extension
was not included ..

which appears to confirm my previous assertion that :-

Post by Mart
I don't *think* that the problems are necessarily due to
you trying to copy/burn .mp3 files.

Uninstall/Re-install Easy CD? - Well it certainly wouldn't do any harm - and
*may* just fix it <g>
Aging/dirty CD-ROM burner and/or media incompatibilities are certainly high
on my list of suspects.

Remember, there are other ways of transferring data from your old HDD to
your new XP box, but worry about that if you come completely unstuck with
your CD burning method.

BTW - If you want to find out EVERYTHING you will ever need to know about
CD-Recording issues, try Andy McFadden's site:-
http://www.cdrfaq.org/
and don't have nightmares <g> Good luck

Mart

Well, I have been picking away at moving the mp3's. I select about 90 files
(using CD-RW) of which about 60 are *correct* and can be copied onto the new
PC. Have set defaults to "Verify" and write speed of 2X
The error messages I gave previously are still showing up during the closing
session. I just work backwards up the list until I find the last one that is
workable.
I can accept this way to do it but am now wondering about pertinant (sp)
software programs (Simply Accounting) for example that I want to move to the
new PC and if they contain any sound files that will bugger up the transfer.
I moved one program and have found that the exe file extension was not
included at the end of a file name and consequently I can't get that program
to open. I used the "createCD" utility.
Any comments of why the exe file extension (could be other ext missed also-
I have checked thoroughly yet) didn't get included as part of the transfer
(copy) - it is listed as .exe on the CD I used to move it. Would the virus
(nortons BTW) program have had something to do with this failure to properly
copy?

Post by Mart
"Heather" wrote:> Baffled, Connie....but I keep getting the nagging thought and have to
ask.....did you burn the mp3's as *data*. In the same manner as you would
back up your files and documents.

Yes (I think so) - used the "dataCD" and drug-in all files the same way

Post by Mart
Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then scandisk and defrag.

Just to double check - when you are speaking off deleting *Temp* files you
are referring to C:\WINDOWS\TEMP , but not the file folder itself ...
correct?
The disk cleanup included the removal of files from the TIF and a few other
folders which I followed with the scandisk and defrag.
I am also using the Verbatim CD-RW (silver on one side, grayish on other)
and shut down everything (unneeded programs, internet etc) using CAD.
I will finish moving the mp3's (and deleting ... all 924 of them!!) from
one music folder before my next cleaning/defrag and then I'll look up Roxio 6
I'm getting dangerously close to information overload :) :)
But thanks for all the suggestions - your continued help is appreciated, so
please keep suggesting!
Connie
"Heather" wrote:> Baffled, Connie....but I keep getting the nagging thought
and have to > ask.....did you burn the mp3's as *data*. In the same manner
as you would > back up your files and documents.

Post by Mart
And I will add to some of Mart's good suggestions. See inline....

Post by Mart
Connie, just a very quick 'first thoughts' for a long post.
I don't *think* that the problems are necessarily due to you trying to
copy/burn .mp3 files.
A couple of suggestions to try/eliminate first:-
1) Defrag your HDD first - but as you don't have (very) much spare
capacity this might not really help.

Empty your temp & TIF folder first.....then scandisk and defrag.

Post by Mart
2) Try burning at a lower (slowest) speed and/or a different brand of
CD-R's.

Excellent idea....try using say 4X instead of 6X (can't remember how fast
Adaptec 4 burns.
I will also add 2 important things that I learned while using Adaptec 4 and
WinME. Use only CD's that have either a silver or blue recording side.
I
found that Verbatim were usually very good. Gold surfaces, as in Kodak
Gold, will not record.....or wouldn't for me. Took me a long time to figure
that one out.
And MOST IMPORTANT of all......use CAD to shut down unneeded programs and
disconnect from the Internet just before recording. I have a sneaking
suspicion that programs like Zone Alarm and your AV muck stuff up if they
try to connect to home base, or react to a probe. I ALWAYS did what I just
said.
Other than that, if you could get your hands on a copy of Roxio 6, I think
it might just do the trick. I bought it on eBay for $10 Cdn. and it was
worth $50!! Solved all my problems.
Cheers....Heather

[SSAP]

Hi Mart: Yes you are correct in that I can save/burn other file extensions
(.doc, .jpg, etc.) to CD - it is the audio that can't be saved or copied.
Audio at this point is those you mentioned- .wav or .mpg's.

My son also reminded me that mpg's cannot be changed to .wav (or was/is that
the other way around?!) I do have .wav that he says he can not convert and
copy to his audio player .

Burning software: There are two Adaptec versions installed, neither will
work for the audio burn (but will for the other file types)
1: Adaptec\Easy CD Creator 4\CreateCD
2: Adaptec\DirectCD

I am currently looking at the "Sounds and Multimedia Properties" > Devices
as well as the "System Properties" > Device Manager > Sound, Video and Game
Controllers.
I see "Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI (WDM)

Upon clicking on the properties in these device fields they say either :
1. Driver is enabled
or
2. This device is working properly.

I will standby for suggestions but when any of you are ready for bed - just
tell me and we can carry on again at your convenience.

Post by Mart
SSAP, your problem really needs defining a little more clearly.

Post by SSAP
My PC is not allowing me to save any sort of audio
to CD: (Windows ME)

Are you saying that you can save (burn) other types of files (.doc, .txt
etc.) to your CD but NOT .wav or .mpg's or even create Audio CD's?
What 'Burning' software are you using e.g. Nero, Adaptec, Roxio, etc.?

Post by SSAP
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is
not loaded. Install via Windows Contol Panel.

Would suggest that you can't PLAY the sounds. The MCI Sound Driver would not
(normally) be required for copying and burning the files to your CD.
If your problem is with the burning operation ONLY, then you might need to
re-install your CD Burning software. However, if the error report occurs
when trying to PLAY the music, then (as Heather has alluded, elsewhere) you
may have to re-install your sound card.

Post by SSAP
Upon digging around this is all I found that referenced
(PCMCIA) - No PC card sockets are installed.

Is probably a 'red herring' as PCMCIA sockets are only (usually) installed
on laptops!!

Post by SSAP
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower
and transfer this way.

Yes - several options - but first, try to ascertain the 'real' underlying
problem.
Mart

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded.
Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it messed up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer this way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Bigmoe]

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded. Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it messed up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer this way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.

[Tom Riddle]

Dear SSAP:

Do you know any websites that can download songs for free without
signing up. Also is it easy to download it. If you know any webstes please
tell me on my email address wich is ***@hotmail.com. Thanks. P.S. it has
to be for mp3 players.

Post by SSAP
(Windows ME)
The error includes a line "Windows MCI Sound Driver is not loaded. Install
via Windows Contol Panel.
Previously I had been able to save audio to CD - not sure when it messed up
(ie following an update or power failure ... etc).
in system properties > performance > PC Cards: (PCMCIA) - No PC card
sockets are installed.
I recently purchased a new PC (Windows XP Media) and would like to transfer
my audio (songs) from the old to new PC.
What, where should I be looking to fix this driver problem?
Would it be possible to hook the old tower to new tower and transfer this way.
I have no knowledge about this procedure.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and guidance.